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Muslim population in Karnataka an Analysis-1

by Qazi Arshad Ali, MLC and senior journalist, Bidar

Census 2011 is in progress. This is seventh census since independence. After independence, it was in 1951 when for the first time census was conducted which showed how many people from both the countries had migrated from one another as a result of partition. However, in context of the creation of Pakistan, Hindu population from Pakistan had come to India, and Muslim population from India had migrated to Pakistan.

Hence, we cannot say precisely how many Muslims had migrated from India to Pakistan. When the census was conducted for the second time in independent India in 1961, the process of reorganisation of states had been completed and the system of our governance was almost in control and the dimension of discussions regarding the census was also changed. In 1961 and later, whenever the statistics of the latest census were made public, the Hindu fundamentalist organisations triggered the issue of extreme rise in Muslim population, and it was highlighted that since Muslims don’t do family planning and there is a provision for a Muslim to have four wives, hence the growth rate is more than Hindus and people of other religions. This fear was also projected that if the growth rate of Muslims continue this way, then within years they can become majority community and the Hindus might become minorities. Interestingly for the last 50 years or so, this issue has been a weapon for the Hindu fundamentalist organisations. This should be clear that not only the majority community but also the minorities including Muslims are in great confusion regarding the population statistics. Lack of proper information and emotional analysis of every issue has been a weakness of the Muslim leadership. In this way issues get complicated instead of getting solved and we waste our time and energy in this kind of useless discussions. Since census is being conducted these days, and discussions on this issue have already been started, an attempt is being made to analyse the Muslim population in Karnataka so that we may assess the true situation concerning Muslim population when the statistics of the 2011 census are out.

The present geographical structure of Karnataka was formed on 1st November 1956 as a result of the reorganisation of states. Prior to that, Karnataka was divided into several parts. Muslims’ advent to the present Karnataka had begun very soon after the advent of Islam in Arabia. The connection of Muslim Arab businessmen with the coastal region of Kerala and Karnataka is very ancient. They established their colonies in the west coast of India. Ibn-e-Batuta, in his travelogue, written in 1342, has mentioned a Muslim state in Honnavar, and has revealed that even at that time separate institutions were established for girls’ education. The generations of Arab Muslims present in the Dakshina Kannada, Udupi and Uttara Kannada districts of south-west coastal Karnataka are Mapilla, Byari and Navayath. These people speak Malayalam, Konkani, Navayathi and Byari languages.

After the two centuries of establishment of Muslim colonies in South Karnataka and coastal Kerala, the advent of Muslims began in North India and it was in 13th century when Muslims came to north Karnataka, who later scattered across the state gradually. Today a majority of Muslims, who came from North India, speak Urdu language. Muslims progressed and strengthened the foundations of Islamic civilisation in Karnataka during the rule of Bahamanis and Bareed Shahees in Gulbarga and Bidar, and Adil Shahees and Asif Jahees of Hyderabad in Bijapur.

According to the available official record of Muslim population in Karnataka, in 1911, the percentage of Muslim population in Karnataka of that time was 8.64 percent, whereas according to the 1931 census it was 9.36 percent which went up to 10.05 percent in 1951. It is shown in records of 1961 census that the percentage of Muslim population in Karnataka was 9.87 percent. An analysis of Muslim population in contrast with the total population since 1961 till 2001 is as follows:

Year of Census Total Population Muslim Population Percentage of Muslim Population
1961 2.3 Crore 23.28 lakh 9.87 percent
1971 2.93 Crore 31.13 lakh 10.63 percent
1981 3.71 Crore 41.63 lakh 11.21 percent
1991 4.49 Crore 52.34 lakh 11.64 percent
2001 5.85 Crore 64.46 lakh 12.23 percent

In 1961, there were only 19 districts in Karnataka, when Bidar was on top in terms of percentage of Muslim population which had 18.6 percent of Muslims, whereas Mandya was at the bottom of the table with 3.49 least percentage of Muslim population. It is worth mentioning that Bidar and Mandya maintained their status of large and least populated districts with Muslims from 1961 till 1991. Prior to the 2001 census, seven new districts were formed in Karnataka, as a result of which Dakshina Kannada (Mangalore) stood first in terms of Muslim population with 22.07 percent, whereas Mandya maintained its last place.

According to the census conducted in 2001, out of 27 districts, 17 districts had more than 10 percent of Muslim population and other 10 districts had less than 10 percent of Muslim population. In 12 districts of north Karnataka i.e. Belgaum and Gulbarga division, the percentage of Muslim population is 14.39, whereas in 15 districts of south Karnataka, the percentage is 10.15. As it is known that Bidar, Gulbarga, Raichur and Koppal districts which were earlier a part of Hyderabad state, have a different identity in terms of culture language and concentration of Muslim population. Muslims are 15 percent in Gulbarga revenue division and 14 percent in Belgaum division i.e. Mumbai-Karnataka region.

At the time of independence, a large part of the Muslim population from north India and Hyderabad state had migrated to Pakistan, and after independence, a large number of people from rural areas have been shifting to urban areas, and this process is in continuation even today. It is for this reason that Muslim population is concentrated in urban areas. According to the 2001 census, the total population of Karnataka was 52850562, in which 6463127 i.e. 12.23 percent are Muslims. Out of these 3815301 i.e. 59 percent of Muslim population leave in Urban areas, whereas 2647828 i.e. 41 percent of Muslims leave in rural areas. The ratio of women when compared to 1000 men is 957, and the literacy rate is 70 percent.

After independence, from 1951 to 2001, census has been conducted for six times. The percentage of Muslim population during these 50 years has risen from 9.87 percent to 12.23 percent. That means the growth rate of Muslim population is just 2.36 percent.

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  1. Valuable info. Lucky me I found your site by accident, I bookmarked it.

  2. good, valuable information keep it up

  3. Dear Qazi Sahab
    I read your article. It’s very informative. Thanks a lot.
    You are the asset not only for the muslims of K’nataka, but for all the communities.
    Let me thank MrTanveer also for providing this platform.
    With warm regards,
    Juned U Khan
    Dammam. KSA

  4. Thanks a lot for the; valuable information;..

  5. alhamdu lillah. Br. qazi sahib .thank u for take care about the cences karnataka.
    i am very proud to yours act of this way.

  6. Hello sir.. It was great pleasure reading this article.. I appreciate your work towards our community…


      • Yah.. Raheel bhai r u right, We have to do Somthing Good for our Muslim Brothers & Sisters. :)

      • yes even i want to do….there are many people in karnataka who do not have job to do …i wish i could do something to them …..atleast some good job

      • Asslam Alaikum,

        You are RIGHT brother, we need to make our Community very Strong……..

  7. valuable information,
    can you provide the same analysis on the other states of india……….
    any way thanks a lot

  8. aap logo k jriyeh say hmay wo jaankariya mil jati hai jo ki media may nhi btai jate hai allah aap logo ko kamyabi ata kray

  9. Thanx for the informative article. This site also help me to know more about our brothers in Karnataka, i’m bookmarked this page.

  10. Good, felt a kind of satisfaction by seeing your site accidently . will see in detail tomorrow. I repeats here the wordasof Janab Azeem Khan .

  11. i am proud to be a muslims sites

  12. According to the 2001 census, 12.23 percent are Muslims says this report. The report is giving all details, but many muslim top officers doubt this 12.23 percent so are old persons who have many details of muslim population and i have heard from many of these persons that muslims population in karnatak is more than 20%. it is sure atleast 20 % is guaranteed.
    This census officers not give corect infomaton about muslims you know.
    But very good artilce with lot of good points God Bless you Qazi sab

  13. Yes brother it is more than 20%. for sure but as you tell officers are not honestly working i think in this census we have to be more carefull by putting all our details without missing one single house also.

  14. Assalam good work what about the 2011 census will u pls update us

  15. assalam
    good work sir keep like this thanks for showing this census in orginal face

  16. Nice Information.

  17. i think JIH Karnataka can do better job as they have very good infrastructure throughout the state.

  18. INSHA ALLAH! I will utilize this wonderful data at this related stage.

  19. Assalam alaikum rehmat Allah.
    “Badi mushkil se hota hai chaman may deedawar paida”
    subhan Allah, Allah keeps your incoherent passion.
    Take care, our immense wishes with you & with your kin n kith.
    Insha Allah, when ever i am in Haram e Shareiff , pray for your great efforts, health and wealth as well.
    With Best regards,
    NHK Ahamed
    Makkah Al Mukarramah – Jeddah, K.S.A

  20. Masha Allah. A very good informative report. Keep it up

  21. qazi sahab assalam alykum

  22. A most commendable effort in starting this website. Although Muslims form a substantial part of the population of Karnataka, seen percentage wise, Karnataka has the highest percentage of Muslims in all of South India, they have so far been found relegated to the margins of all political activity. We need to build on our strengths and change our destiny. I hope and pray that the momentum of this website is only accelerated in the future.

  23. As per present census karnataka muslim population is 11% compair to 2001 census it was around12.23%

  24. Is mohammad asif from hyderabad i would like to say thanks to all team member of this website and oneday this website will become more popular this site is helpfull to the people of karnataka to know the living standard of muslims in the state of karnataka.

  25. Assalam Alaikum;
    Your analysis is a mirror, how, who looks, which angle is depend. To me your analysis is informative. Some comments why I don’t know they are against this. But, I say, if not by Qazi, it is available in census report, nothing like hiding it.

  26. Thanks Quazi shaib for sharing information,
    I have certail question in my mind, hope you will be able to replay,
    1- How many LS and local assembly seats where Muslim votes can be decider ?

  27. It’s a good information. While searching Dawat site I found this site too. Useful information indeed. I wish if we get a handy information about the national population and percentage of Muslims, as it is the most controversial part of discussion. some people deliberately suppress the information or facts.

  28. excellent information khazi bhai, i think most of our own muslim politicians were unaware my appreciations

  29. Qazi Arshad Ali and others in this forum:

    Would you mind responding to the following, please?

    a) By the statistics you quote, the Karnataka Muslim populationgrew 25% in size in the past 50 years. Sure, you can frame it otherwise by saying that 25% is just 2. percent. However that small percent of a large number is still a large number. And relative to its original numbers it is still a 25% growth. Now why wouldn’t anyone (other than a politician depending on votes from that sub-group) be concerned, alarmed even?
    I am, and I profess no allegiance to any faith so please don’t blame me as a fundamentalist or some such thing. I am alarmed that not addressing this issue will lead to, in some time short or long, to a complete change of the culture and demographics and practices of the host country.
    How would you insure that it doesn’t happen? and if you don’t then those Hindu (and other) fundamentalists you berate have a right and good reason to be alarmed, concerned, agitated…over what lies ahead for their progeny.

  30. fine article sir is there any citizen journalist coulumn in ur site and also plz make a column to upload videos of karnataka specially negligent monumwnts of bijapur waiting for ur reply.

  31. Thanks a lot giving honest and good information.

  32. I was in just to gather some statics on mulims in karnataka. So much i got from this article.Expecting another article based on census-2011 by respected Quazi sahab,

  33. A valuable information for all at all time.GREAT EFFORT.

  34. this website may be made more useful by adding information about the several schemes run by government for minorities in karnataka in a detailed manner by a personality of high influence like QAZI SAHAB, M.L.C

  35. Assalam valaikum bhai i think dat there r more muslim n karnataka but y the officers are not showing correct result

  36. Great Info, Random googling lead me to this site. I am Proud Gulbargian, one of the Best Place for Muslims in Karnatka.

    I will be regular visitor from now on:)

  37. Improve the power of Muslimes…

  38. Assalaam walaikum…Eid mubarak to all my muslim ummah…
    Sir,is it true that as per 2001 census,actual muslims population in India is 18percent? I heard government is intentionally hiding this number…
    And If we searched in wikipedea about muslims population in Karnataka,it shows muslims are 11percent but actual percent is 13percent,here BJP government is hiding it for political use.
    In west bengal,muslims are 28.33 percent as per 2011 census. And 26.05 percent in Kerala as per 2011 census..
    Can someone tell me whats muslims population in Andhra Pradesh? Some says its 9percent and some says its 14percent,want to know truth.

    Whats percentage of muslims in Hyderabad? Before becoming Greater Hyderabad,muslims were 41percent and now demography has changed,can someone tell here current muslims population in Hyderabad?

    How many are indigeneous muslims in Assam? Some stats say its 9million and rest 2million bangladeshi immigrants……
    What is current muslim population in Banglore? 1million official record says but by looking into Banglore this is hard to believe because it clearly looks like muslims are near to atleast 30percent of Banglore population……..

    • current population of muslims in india is more then 30crore, thats why non bliever target muslims to kill them but inspite of that its growing as allah said in quran this religion will supersite to all relgion, these non bliever doing planning to live better for that child restriction has been implimented this is the majore mistake our growth rate is 40% and their its just 12%.. eg we 2 our 2, many peoples dont marry many are gays lasbian and many are one child or no chiled bcouse of which there nos of child will be reducing it will DEcrease HEAVLY after few decade,

      present time at europe and americans IF THEY HAVE 10 child in which 5 are muslims bcoze they dont marry if they did then who is going to take care that child as they want another women after a periode of time thats WHY today some 50lacks peoples are their in moscow alone, within next just 30 all erupe will become islamicstate bcoze of imigration of islam and conversion as they are doing wrong against us its helping to grow, do u know when 9/11 happen at time itself many peoples accpeted islam u know they read quran also media expose stating its inside job……….ALLAH IS GOOD PLANNER,….. BIG NEWS ADVANI AND AMITABH BACCHAN IS READING QURAN DO U KNOW THAT? SISTER INLAW OF TONY BLAIR ACCPETED ISLAM, THAT TIME WILL NOT AWAY WHEN BUSH WILL ALSO ACCPET ISLAM…….AMEEN

      • Mr. Rafique,

        India can do without people like you. Muslims in general are lagging behind others as far as family planning is concerned. It is more to do with their illiteracy than anything else. Only in India, Amitabh and Advani will read Koran and President Abdul Kalam will read Gita. India is a true example in the world where multiple religions flourish.

      • That is what Kuran is all about you said here!!!
        Islam is a curse to this earth!!! Islam is only teaching you people that those do not believe in Islam should be not allowed to live on the earth.

        If religion is the only thing which can unite people then there would have been only one country in Arab.

      • Assalam Alaikum Rafique Bhai,

        We should avoid such emotional discourse about muslims and how their population can overshoot others. These arguments would be used my facists, fundamentalist & communal forces like RSS, VHP to unleash violence, victimize them and keep muslims out from all walks of life and keep them marginalised and backward. Muslims any where in the world are not here to just overtake others in population. The discourse what you have mentioned above could be dangerously interpreted by BJP & RSS to create fear psychosis among hindus and turn them into hardcore BJP supporters. Muslims should concentrate primarily on their education, development, advancement. Mere numbers want do us any good, their are so many backward, uneducated, directionless muslim youths.
        who neither know Islam nor any modern education,who indulge in drugs,antisocial activities, joblessness etc.. who are more harm than good to the community and bring bad name to Islam & muslims. So 1st we need to concentrate on education and development. Numbers we need to leave it on Allah. As our our main believe is on Allah, who controls everything. Then Insha Allah non-muslims will see the real beauty of Islam, and definitely if Allah wills they will turn to the right path. Atleast we should do our best interms of following Islam which teaches righteousness all the way along and lays alot of stress education and hikamah. remember the land of arab was entirely non-muslimes & idolaters. But when prophet used hikamah and beautifull preaching of Islam with patients, they all came running to Islam. Even muslims in india were all hindus, so we should love hindus and show goodness of Islam with Hikamah(wisdom) like prophet(PBUH) did at the time of Jahala(ignorance) in the deserts of arabia. Our belief is at the end Allah controls everything so this world is just a test for us. Non-muslims are coming to Islam in hoards world over. Insha Allah if we follow Islam & teach all muslims to follow Islam in true essence. Non-muslims would see the beauty of Islam definitely. Insha Allah.

  39. Dear brothers and sisters,
    i am going to perticipate for MP election this time, objective is to
    streamline ummah toward quran and hadith,
    to help them by giving world class education freely insha allah
    to help them by removing fear so that they can teach islamic massege to non blievers, as quran says you should deliver the massenge accpet or not its their own choice but we should do dawah which is not there in the sociaty i feel on the day of judgement these non bliever will give shahada stating we dont know quran massenge as these peoples kept themselves which can be reason for hell for us
    now a days chirstians are spreading there religion by spending money not with the msg of bible as bible is not the word of God pl read genesis 19 for details and decide urself remember these peoples who has taken our kingdom last 300 year back now they want our iman also they are misguiding muslims stating we are terriorist as whol world know hitler is biggest terriorist who killed 600000000 jews and america put nuclear on japan and killed lacks of peoples in iraq and afghanistan……commen pl

    i have very loude an fearless voice which i want to utilise at parliment in favour of musalman and other common man to whome these politician utilise for their gain insha allah i am not going to spend money also i am not going to earn personally what ever i earn its for peoples only allah has given enough money to me bcoze my family is self depended on commercial part, i am 30y old prsntly i am working with MNC when i read quran with understanding i was shocked we are fool as we kept this book into secrate place, this book has falsfication test too, then i thought lets become powerfull person to protect peoples so that they can spread this massege wihtout any fear……….waiting for your comment on this pl

  40. Thanks for top most valvable gk for my child about karnataka muslims

  41. Amazing information.

  42. As-salaam-u-alaikum Kazi Sahaab,i must commend the wonderful work done regarding the census, i would be eternally grateful if you could or direct me to somebody that can assist.My maternal grandfather had a Quraan on which was written Karanataki,He left home at the age of 12 because his parents refused to give him a section of land on which the date trees grew.He travelled by foot to Sudan and bought identity papers in the name of Abdul Gani Adam Shaikjee and continued S Africa .He was now 40 yrs of age and the year being 1900 as his first child of 12 children was born.So according to my estimation he was born around 1860 and left home around 1872.How can i trace my ancestors in your region. Best salaams and duas , gulam ghous

  43. What is the percentage of Muslims in Karnataka in 2011 Cencus?? Can you shed light on this cencus???Please

    • Dear Sayed Abdulhayan brother. as of Nov. 2012 Census, the total percentage of Muslim population in Karnataka is 1.67 Crores which means 32% of total population

  44. ASSALAAMU ALAIKUM my all Muslim Brothers and Sisters.,

    These statistics of Muslim populatio in Karnataka is totally wrong.. According to Wikipedia, as of Nov. 2012 the Muslim poulation in Karnataka is 1.67 Crores out of 5.31 Crores. That means almost 32% of Karnataka population are Muslims.

    Try and read the actual article from Wikipedia which maintains correct statistics….

    • Mr. Bangalore. Are you at least aware of what u r referring to??? OMG Wikipedia!!! The said site had fed u with wrong statistics Sro/Sis

  45. Thnxx sir

  46. Accidently I found this website and surprised to see the articile and activities, let me tell you every single step towards empowering and leveraging community shoud be appreciated and frankly speaking this is commendable work and plateform. Jazak ALLAH

  47. Qazi Arshad Ali,
    MLC Bidar

    Appreciate your efforts Sir,

    With best Regards from the people of Bidar

    Ilyas Ahmed

    Dammam Eastern Province
    Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

  48. you have done good work kindly up date to 2013

  49. salam ,
    let all of us communicate this information to young muslim generation. then only we can create awareness in muslim community & educate them about their rights, about their strength.

  50. Valuable information…jazakallah khair

  51. Plz inform resented information

  52. Very good info thanks for sharing the knowledgeable information with us.

  53. very good effort…

  54. Dear Qazi Arshad Ali Sahab,

    Thanks for publishing informative Column, you have provide us very clear picture & figures of Karnataka Muslims Population with the help of Census from 1961 thru 2001 really it’s highly appreciated efforts you have made it.
    We are expecting to be publish Censes 2011 Reports as well.

  55. Very concerned info. All muslims should take special interest in registering Aadhar card and also for election list. Thanks to Qazi Arshed for his effforts

  56. Masha allah good innitiative,keep me posted

  57. Thanks for the info..
    To preserve secularism in India, we need to control this by having common civil code. I hope our govt will look at this.

  58. By birth I am from Mysore, an appreciable endeaver, the heart touching information is the litracy rate rather than population growth. All the best sir.

  59. Had it been explained through graphics would have given more clarity, however effort is commendable

  60. Please keep doing like this type of information, its very important to know about our community details in Karnataka. all the best to you.

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  62. the census info is absolute. some comments just overexert muslim population to 20percent its false. actually we lag in education and census is proof of the thing (bihar growth is high all people are poorer than karnataka) . i know truth is bitter but we should start such forms of family planning which is acceptable in islam bcoz then we can be rich, more educated , standard , modern and developed. we shouldnt blame govement for all our backwordness but should start working to become more prosporous

  63. Mashaallah
    Allah ap ko jezaye khair de.
    Isi terhan dosre stat k b report bahir layee yega.
    Allah hafiz

  64. actually the real percentage of Muslim doesn’t issue correctly….. because they won’t do want like that…… aur we are absorbed only some facilities of government……

  65. Keep fu***cking. Our population will shoot up. and we can do have more bomb blasts and Jihad. i am proud of islam. It has given us the best rationale to cater to all our basic instincts. 1X4 wifesX 10 puppies in one life time and in a few generations we will have conqured the world. This is what Allah wants. And we can claim subsidy and other benefits from Government to live.

  66. It is very sad that Muslims are 12% of our population. Because most of the muslims are cruel and fundamentalists. As Muslim population increases in society, all bad things starts to happen in society.
    Muslims never treat other religion people as humans, we can see example for this in Pakistan,Bangla,and numerous Muslim countries.

    This will be very difficult live with Muslims. All most all the Muslim countries in the world are engaged in war with their minorities. Muslims should learn humanity first. Someone need to teach humanity for Muslims especially in Karnataka

    • I like Muslims of Karnataka. They are good people. I have many good experiences from Muslims of Karnataka State. Though i came from Kerala, Muslims of Bangalore consider me as a brother. May God Bless them !

  67. Meaning of word islam is dear friends be in peace and harmony with bro and sis of other religioun

  68. Fallacy of islam:

    Christians must be prepared to answer the typical objections made against the Gospel. Most of the objections are based on simple logical fallacies. The following is a list of some of the most common fallacies used by Muslims.

    Note: The average Muslim does not know that his arguments are logically erroneous. He is sincere in his beliefs. Thus you must be patient and kind in sharing with him why his arguments are invalid.

    1. The Fallacy of False Assumptions: In logic as well as in law, “historical precedent” means that the burden of proof rests on those who set forth new theories and not on those whose ideas have already been verified. The old tests the new. The already established authority judges any new claims to authority.

    Since Islam came along many centuries after Christianity, Islam has the burden of proof and not Christianity. The Bible tests and judges the Qur’an. When the Bible and The Qur’an contradict each other, the Bible must logically be given first place as the older authority. The Qur’an is in error until it proves itself.

    Some Muslims violate the principle of historical precedent by asserting that Islam does not have the burden of proof and that the Qur’an judges the Bible.
    2. Arguing in a circle: If you have already assumed in your premise what you are going to state in your conclusion, then you have ended where you began and proven nothing.

    If you end where you began, you got nowhere.

    Many people think that Allah is the god of the Bible. This book shows why he is NOT!
    #1 Proving Allah by the Qur’an and then proving the Qur’an by Allah.

    #2 Proving Muhammad by the Qur’an and then proving the Qur’an by Muhammad.

    #3 Proving Islam by the Qur’an and then proving the Qur’an by Islam.

    3. False Analogy: Comparing two things as if they are parallel when they are not really the same at all.
    #1 Many Muslims erroneously assume that Muslims and Christians share the same concepts of God, revelation, inspiration, textual preservation, the Bible, prophethood, biblical history, conversion, etc…

    #2 Because a false analogy is drawn between Islam and Christianity, some Muslims think that any argument which refutes the Qur’an will likewise refute the Bible; any argument which refutes Muhammad will also refute Jesus Christ, etc…

    #3 For example, many Muslims claim that Muhammad and all prophets were sinless. They even deny that Abraham was an idol worshipper. Thus when a Christian points out all the wicked things that Muhammad did (mass murder, child abuse, lying, etc.), the Muslims will say, “If you are right, then you must also reject your biblical prophets for doing wicked things as well.”

    What he is really saying is, “If you reject my prophet, then you must reject your prophets as well. If Muhammad was a false prophet, then your prophets are false as well.”

    Author shows that the Qur’an is a disorganized mass of contradictions.
    The root problem is that the Muslim concept of prophethood is not the same as the Christian concept of prophethood. We teach that prophets sin like anyone else. Thus while Islam is refuted by the sins of Muhammad, Christianity is not jeopardized at all. The Muslim is guilty of setting up a “false analogy.”

    Whenever a Muslim responds to a Christian attack on the Qur’an, Muhammad, or Allah by flipping the argument around and applying it to the Bible, Jesus or the Trinity as if Islam and Christianity either stand or fall together, he is guilty of the fallacy of false analogy. Islam can be false and Christianity be true at the same time.
    4. The Fallacy of Irrelevance: When you introduce issues which have no logical bearing on the subject under discussion, you are using irrelevant arguments.
    #1 Some Muslims argue, “The Qur’an is the Word of God because the text of the Qur’an has been preserved perfectly.” This argument is erroneous for two reasons:

    a. Factually, the text of the Qur’an has not been preserved perfectly. The text has additions, deletions, conflicting manuscripts, and variant readings like any other ancient writing.

    b. Logically, it is irrelevant whether the text of the Qur’an has been preserved because preservation does not logically imply inspiration. A book can be perfectly copied without implying its inspiration.

    #2 When Muslims attack the character and motives of anyone who criticizes Islam, they are using irrelevant arguments. The character of someone is no indication of whether he is telling you the truth. Good people can lie and evil people can tell the truth. Thus whenever a Muslim uses slurs such as “mean,” “dishonest,” “racist,” “liar,” “deceptive,” etc., he is not only committing a logical fallacy but also revealing that he cannot intellectually defend his beliefs.
    #3 When confronted with the pagan origins of the Qur’an, some Muslims defend the Qur’an by answering, “So what! Didn’t you Christians get Christmas from the pagans?”
    This argument is erroneous for several reasons.

    a. It is a false analogy to parallel the pagan origins of the rites commanded in the Qur’an with the present day holidays nowhere commanded in the Bible. What some modern day Christians do on Dec. 25th has no logical bearing on what the Qur’an commands Muslims to do (eg. the Pilgrimage, the Fast, etc.).

    b. It is irrelevant that some Christians choose to celebrate the birth of Christ. Since the Bible nowhere commands it, it is a matter of personal freedom. But Muslims are commanded in the Qur’an to believe and practice many things which came from the paganism of that day.

    c. The Muslim by using this argument is actually admitting that the Qur’an was not “sent down” but fabricated from pagan sources. This means he has become an unbeliever (Surah 25:4-6).

    #4 Some Muslims argue that the Qur’an is the Word of God because it contains some historically or scientifically accurate statements. This argument is irrelevant. Just because a book is correct on some historical or scientific point does not mean it is inspired. You cannot take the attributes of a part and apply it to the whole. A book can be a mixture of true and false statements. Thus it is a logical fallacy to argue that the entire Qur’an is true if it makes one true statement.

    When a Muslim argues that history or science “proves” the Qur’an, this actually means that he is acknowledging that history and science can likewise refute the Qur’an. If the Qur’an contains just one historical error or one scientific error, then the Qur’an is not the Word of God. Verification and falsification go hand in hand.

    #5 The present meaning of a word is irrelevant to what it meant in ancient times. The word “Allah” is a good example. When confronted by the historical evidence that the word was used by pagan Arabs in pre-Islamic times to refer to a high god who was married to the sun-goddess and had three daughters, some Muslims will quote dictionaries, encyclopedias, etc. to prove (sic) that “Allah means God.” They are thus using modern definitions to define what the word meant over a thousand years ago! What “Allah” means now has no bearing on what it meant before Muhammad.

    5. The Fallacy of Equivocation: If we assume that everyone has the same definition of such words as God, Jesus, revelation, inspiration, prophet, miracle, etc., we are committing a very simple logical fallacy.

    #1 When a Muslim says, “Christians and Muslims worship the same God,” he is committing the fallacy of equivocation. While Christians worship the Triune God of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, Muslims worship a Unitarian deity. Obviously, they are worshipping different Gods.

    #2 When a Muslim says, “We believe in Jesus too,” he is committing the fallacy of equivocation. The “Jesus” of the Qur’an is not the Jesus of the Bible. Islam preaches “another Jesus” (II Cor. 11:4). The Jesus of the Bible is God the Son who died on the cross for our sins. But the “Jesus” of the Qur’an is not God the Son and he did not die on the cross for our sins. Thus it is erroneous for Muslims to tell Christians that they believe in Jesus, too.

    #3 When a Muslim assumes that Christians have the same concept of revelation as Muslims, he is guilty of the fallacy of equivocation. According to Islam, the Qur’an was written in heaven by Allah and has no earthly sources. When we prove that it comes from earthly sources, this threatens the inspiration of the Qur’an.

    On the other hand, the Bible does not claim that it dropped out of heaven one day. It openly quotes from earthly sources. It uses pre-existing sources without any difficulty whatsoever, Thus while the Qur’an is threatened by historical sources, the Bible is actually confirmed by them.

    #4 When a Muslims tells you that the word “Allah” has only one meaning: “the one, true, universal God,” he is assuming a fallacy. The word “allah” has many different meanings.

    a. It can be used as a generic term like the English word “God.” Thus it can be applied to any god or goddess regardless if a true or false god is in view. (ex. The “Allahs” of Hinduism.)

    b. The Nation of Islam uses it to refer to Wallace Dodd Ford, Elijah Muhammad, and Louis Farrakhan as “Allah” and teaches that all black people are “Allahs.”

    c. It has been used by some Christians in Arabic speaking countries as a generic name for the Holy Trinity.

    d. It was used in pre-Islamic times by pagan Arabs to refer to the moon-god who was the father of al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat.
    e. It is used by Muslims to refer to their god.

    Islam and Christianity do not worship the same God. The Christian worships the Holy Trinity while the Muslim worships a unitarian deity.
    6. The Fallacy of Force: The Qur’an commands Muslims to wage war against non-Muslims and apostates (Surah 5:33; 9:5, 29).

    Some Muslims use a false analogy to answer this argument. They respond by saying, “Well, what about the Crusades? You Christians use violence just like Muslims.”

    It is logically erroneous to set up a parallel between Muslims killing people in obedience to the Qur’an and Christians killing people in disobedience to the Bible. While the Qur’an commands Jihad, the New Testament forbids it.
    7. The Fallacy Of Confusing Questions of Fact with Questions of Relevance: Whether something is factually true is totally different from the issue of whether you feel it is relevant. The two issues must be kept separate.

    #1 When a Christian argues that some of the beliefs and rituals of the Qur’an came from pre-Islamic Arab paganism, the Muslim will deny it at first. But as more and more evidence is given, the Muslim will often do a flip-flop and begin arguing, “So what! Didn’t you Christians get Christmas from the pagans?” The Muslim has now committed three fallacies:

    a. The “So what!” argument is dealing with the issue of relevance, not fact. You must stop the Muslim at that point and ask him, “Since you are now dealing with the issue of whether the pagan origins of the Qur’an are relevant, does this mean that you are now agreeing to the fact of the pagan origins of Islam?”

    b. The Muslim has also committed the fallacy of equivocation, The Bible is not threatened by historical sources. It freely refers to them and even quotes them (Acts 17: 28). But the Qur’an denies that it has any earthly historical sources (Surah 25:4-6).

    c. He also committed the fallacy of false analogy. The Bible and the Qur’an are two totally different books. The inspiration of the Bible does not depend upon the fate of the Qur’an because what Muslims claim for the Qur’an is not what Christians claim for the Bible.
    8. Phonic Fallacies: The phonetic sound of a word should not be used to twist its meaning. For example,

    a. Some Muslims try to prove that the word “Allah” is in the Greek New Testament because of the Greek word alla. But while the word is pronounced “alla,” it only means “but” in Greek. It has nothing to do with the Arabic “Allah.”

    b. Some Muslims have claimed that the word “Allah” is in the Bible because the Biblical word “Allelujah.” They then mispronounce the word as “Allah-lujah” But “Allelujah” is not a compound Arabic word with “Allah” being the first part of the word. It is a Hebrew word with the name of God being “JAH” (or Yahweh) and the verb “alle” meaning “praise to.” It means “praise to Yahweh.” The Arabic word “Allah” is not in the word.

    c. The same error is found in the Muslim argument that the word “Baca” (Psa. 84:6) really means “Mecca.” The valley of Baca is in northern Israel.

    d. Some Muslims have tried to go from “Amen” to “Ahmed” to “Mohammed!” Such nonsense is beyond belief.
    9. “Red Herring” Arguments: When a Muslim is asked to defend the Qur’an, if he turns around and attacks the reliability of the Bible, the Trinity, the deity of Christ, the Crusades, etc., he is introducing irrelevant issues that have no logical bearing on the truthfulness of Islam. He is trying to divert attention from Islam to other issues.

    Furthermore, he is assuming that if he can refute the Bible, then the Qur’an wins by default. If he can refute the Trinity, then Allah wins by default. But this is logically erroneous. You cannot prove your position by refuting someone else’s position. The Bible and the Qur’an could both be wrong. Muslims must prove their own book.
    10. Straw Man Arguments: When you put a false argument into the mouth of your opponent and then proceed to knock it down, you have only created a “straw man” argument, Muslims sometimes either misunderstand or deliberately misquote the arguments Christians give them.
    Some Muslims have built a “straw man” argument that claims that we teach, “The Qur’an teaches that Allah is the Moon-god and that Muslims knowingly believe in and worship the Moon-god and his daughters.” They then knock down this “straw man” argument and claim victory. Of course, we never said such nonsense. What we have said is that while the Qur’an claims that Allah is God and Muslims think they are worshipping the one true God, in reality they are worshipping a false god preached by a false prophet according to a false book.

    The average Muslim has been deceived by Muslim apologists who use such logical fallacies without regard to reason, fact or honesty. But there are many Muslims who want to be rational in their religion and thus have an open mind to rational discourse. Once they see that their arguments are based on logical fallacies, they will be open to the wonderful news that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who died for our sins on the cross.

    • part 2:

      The Qur’an is to Muslims the infallible word of God that they assert has been perfectly preserved on a tablet in heaven. They believe these words were given to Muhammad their prophet by the angel Gabriel. See Qur’an 10:15, 37; 56:77-79; 69:44-48; 85:21-22. It is unchangeable, inerrant, and many Muslims believe in the implementation of Islamic shariah law because of their view that it is God’s unchangeable word.

      The Qur’an teaches hand amputation for petty theft (Qur’an 5:38), that a man can own and have sex with slave girls (2:221; 4:3, 24-28; 23:5-6; 33:50-52; 70:30), allows child marriages (65:4-5, see N.J. Dawood’s footnote in his translation), and calls for war to be made on Jews and Christians until they are either defeated or subjected to humiliating lowliness (9:29).

      Since the Qur’an makes some very high claims to infallibility, then a single error would render the whole dogmatic position as fallacious. When the Qur’an is held up to the scrutiny of science it does not fare very well, because the Qur’an and science give two very descriptions of the earth. Much of the style of the Qur’an also, is not written like symbolic descriptions one would find in the Bible’s Psalm or Job about the earth, but is supposedly God’s clear revelations to Muhammad for his instruction about the world around him.

      But what further complicates this issue is the claim by numerous Muslim apologists that the Qur’an is full of scientific miracles and insights long before they were discovered, which is proof that the Qur’an is God’s word. Numerous people have converted to Islam after reading these misleading booklets and videos. Even some secular scientists (or so we are told) have been quoted by the Muslims on their amazement on the ‘scientific accuracy’ of the Qur’an.

      Miscellaneous errors.

      The Qur’an has many miscellaneous scientific errors on a number of different issues.

      Qur’an 2:261 tells us that every ear of corn has 100 grains. This has not been proven scientifically and is more than obviously false. It brings into question the scientific accuracy of the Qur’an and whether the Qur’an is really addressing scientific issues.

      There are many absurdities of talking in the teachings of Muhammad. In the Hadith (traditions of what Muhammad said and did), we find more. We are told that stones talked to Muhammad (Bukhari 1, p. vii), that food talked to Muhammad while he was eating it (Bukhari 4:779) and a tree cried because Muhammad would not preach near it (Bukhari 2:41; 4:783). After Muhammad comforted the tree, it stopped crying (ibid). For this to be true, stones, trees and food would have to have at least lungs, a respiratory system, vocal cords and a tongue. One has to wonder if you could be more absurd than this?

      Muslims, have responded to Christians by saying that the Bible is even more absurd where Daniel saw a vision of some talking horns on a beast. There is a difference, however. Daniel was looking at a symbolic, apocalyptic vision that is not meant to be taken literally.

      The Qur’an 5:6, says that if there is no water to clean oneself with, you should use sand as a substitute for water. Firstly this is very unhygienic, since sand is full of dust and is unclean. Even if the God of the Qur’an had not been addressing scientific issues, one would wonder why he would not know that sand is unhygienic and dangerous for one’s health, thus warning them against it.

      Genetic myths.

      The Qur’an has many genetic myths about how humans are born, etc. The Qur’an 86:6-7 says that Fluid comes from between a man’s backbone and ribs. We know today from biology studies that Fluid comes from the male Instruments, so once again, a very inaccurate statement coming from the Qur’an.

      In the Hadith, Muhammad was given a revelation from the angel Gabriel as to why a child resembles the father sometimes, and other times the mother. The angel told him that it depends on which parent reaches their intimate climax first during conception (Bukhari 4:546). This has been disproved by genetics.

      The Qur’an also tells us that the prophet Jesus was created from dust (3:59) in Mary’s womb (19:20-23). Why she did not get tuberculosis with the dust in her body seems even more miraculous.

      Miscellaneous errors.

      The Qur’an has other errors of nature, where 51:49, says of life in creation, “And of everything we have created pairs that ye may reflect” (see also 43:12; 50:7). So for all animals they are created in pairs. This is an obvious denial of the fact that numerous species produce asexually, not in pairs.

      The Qur’an also contains scientific anachronisms of longevity. The Qur’an 18:25 tells the story of some men who slept in a cave for 309 years. Why they did not die very soon due to dehydration and lack of sunlight is not explained.

      The Qur’an 37:143-144 also talks of how the prophet Jonah was swallowed by the fish, this god in the Qur’an says, “Had it not been that he repented and glorified Allah, he would certainly have remained inside the fish till the day of resurrection.” We know from scientific, biological studies, that the fish (had it not vomited him up) would have digested Jonah, which would have seen him dead and defecated out of the fish. As for the fish, long before the day of resurrection it would have been well and truly dead and rotted away.

      Sick myths.

      In the Hadith, Muhammad explains the cause of fever and the reason for high body temperatures – they come from the fire of hell (Bukhari 4:483, 486). From today’s medical studies, we know the real cause of fevers.

      The most common cause of fevers is viral infections like influenza, as seen in a cold or sore throat. Most other fevers (in temperate climates) are from bacteria, which affect the respiratory system, bowels, urinary tract and intestines. Fevers in tropical climates are caused by protozoa (parasites larger than bacteria).

      The earth is spread out like a carpet.

      The Qur’an 20:53, talks of God who has, “, made the earth for you like a carpet spread out, ” (see also 71:19). This could hardly be a clearer way of describing the earth as flat. The Qur’an repeatedly refers to how the earth is “wide” or “spread out” (Qur’an 13:3; 15:19; 18:7; 19:6; 21:30; 35:40; 41:10; 43:10; 50:7; 51:48; 55:10; 78:6; 79:30; 88:20), which is not the language used to describe a round sphere.
      Heavy mountains hold the earth in place.

      Just as one might use some bricks to hold the corners of a sheet on the ground in place on a windy day, so we are told of the role that mountains play in keeping the earth stable. The Qur’an 21:31, “And we have set on earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake, ”

      So far we are the told that the earth is spread out like a carpet with heavy mountains to hold it in place.

      But further evidence opens up that the Qur’an is indeed talking about a flat earth. Qur’an 18:47 says, “On that day we shall remove the mountains, and thou wilt see the earth as a level stretch, ” (see also 20:104-107). In other words 18:47 & 20:107 are saying that once the mountains are removed, we will see to the end of the world, which is flat.

      The sky could fall on our heads!

      This god also reassures us in the Qur’an 22:65, that “He witholds the sky from falling on the earth except by his leave: for Allah is most kind and most merciful to man.” The Qur’an is saying that the sky is a hard opaque object that could fall and injure/kill us. This is certainly how it appeared to ancient people, but not what we know from scientific evidence. Perhaps this god knew that the earth’s atmosphere was just thin air and a mixture of gasses. But this would make him into a deceiving god, making an empty threat and telling blatant lies!

      The Qur’an 19:90 also says that in regard to blasphemies against Islam, the skies are about to burst. The Qur’an 34:9 this god says of the pagans, “If we wished, we could cause the earth to swallow them up, or cause a piece of the sky to fall upon them” (see also 52:44). The concept of a hard sky is also seen in the way it is described as a canopy (Qur’an 2:22; 21:32; 40:64; 79:28), that will one day be ripped apart (Qur’an 55:37; 69:16; 73:18; 78:19; 82:1).

      The Qur’an 70:8 tells us that one day the sky will be like molten brass. And one day the sky will be rolled up (21:104; 39:67).

      Then the Qur’an unlocks to us a mystery about how the heavens and earth were made. In a rhetorical challenge to the pagans who rejected Islam, this god says, “Do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder?”

      So far we are told that the earth is flat, the sky is hard and these two hard, opaque objects were once joined together, but this god pulled them apart, which explains the distance between the earth and sky. This is similar to the creation myths of the Australian Aborigines and New Zealand Maoris.

      The sun moves around the earth.

      The Qur’an talks of the earth in terms as if it were stationary, with the sun and stars moving around the earth (Qur’an 2:258; 21:33; 36:40; 52:49; 53:1). “It is he who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon: all (celestial bodies) swim along, each in it’s rounded course” (21:33). We know today that the sun is far bigger than the earth, and is drawing the round earth in it’s orbit.

      Where does the sun set?

      Even more conclusive evidence arrives that the Qur’an teaches a flat earth, because the sun is very small (a lot smaller than the earth), and it rises and sets on our flat earth!

      The Qur’an 18:83-98 tells the story of a pious Muslim, Zulqarnain (whom many Muslim commentators think is Alexander the Great). One day while traveling along, we find that, “Until, when, he reached the setting of the sun, he found it to set in a spring of murky water” (18:86). So Zulqarnain found the sun sets in a spring of murky water. This is saying that the earth is flat and the sun is very small.

      This is an error of astronomical proportions. Shall I belabor the obvious? The sun is far bigger than the earth and if it were any closer we would all burn up. Many Muslims interpret this to mean that he merely looked at the sun from the angle of it setting past a pond of murky water, but this is not what the text says.

      Why Zulqarnain did not go blind or suffer serious eye damage is not explained, because he still enough eyesight to travel to the other end of the world. He traveled, “Until, when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom we had provided no covering protection against the sun” (18:90). In other words he found the sun rising on a scorched people, because they were nearer to the sun than anyone else! This is a clear denial of the round earth, where for every morning for everyone on the whole earth, the sun’s rays are closer at midday than the morning!

      In the Hadith, Muhammad asked some people, “”Do you know where this sun goes?” I said, “Allah and his Apostle know best.” He said, It goes and asks permission to prostrate, and it is allowed, and one day it, as if being ordered to return whence it came, then it will rise from the west.”” (Bukhari 9:520). He is erroneously describing the ‘rising’ and ‘setting’ of the sun as supernatural phenomena. Not only that, he tells us that the sun actually asks this god for permission to rise and set! Furthermore, in this context, Muhammad was not reciting poetry, but was giving the Muslims clear instruction on how the sun rises and sets.

      This concept is further supported by the Qur’an telling us, “And the sun runs into a resting place, ” (Qur’an 36:38). We know today from science and astronomy that it is the earth that spins, not the sun.

      Pray facing Mecca.

      The flat-earth concept is seen in the fact that Muslims have to pray five times a day facing Mecca. To pray with you back to Mecca, would be sacrilegious. They are not allowed to even go to the toilet facing Mecca, either (Bukhari 1:146-151). From a flat-earth viewpoint, this makes sense. But we know today, being on a spherical globe, that if you pray facing Mecca, you have your back to Mecca at the same time (and vice-versa).
      Mountainous myths.

      As if we have not come across enough absurdities already, the Qur’an and Hadith teach some monumental errors of science that any Muslim would be hard-pressed to defend. These scientific errors make a mountain out of a molehill.

      In the Hadith, Muhammad referred to the growth of a baby horse: “, as anyone of you brings up a baby horse, till it becomes like a mountain” (Bukhari 9:525B). Muhammad is talking plain nonsense and may have been hallucinating.

      We are also told that when Muhammad saw the mountain of Uhud, he said, “This is the mountain that loves and is loved by us” (Bukhari 9:433). Muhammad taught that mountains have feelings, emotions and personality. We know today that they are dead, senseless rock and mineral formations pushed up through continental drift and shaped often by volcanoes.

      The Qur’an tells of the mountains as if they were hollow and will one day collapse in Qur’an 19:90; 56:5; Bukhari 9:75.

      The Qur’an also has some very shady myths about clouds. The Qur’an 30:24, says that this god breaks the clouds into fragments so that rain can fall. We know from science and meteorology that clouds are actually water droplets formed through evaporation and not hard objects. In 41:11, the clouds also talked to this god and said, “We do come together, in willing obedience.”

      Astronomical errors.

      From astronomical studies, we know more about the universe than ever before. There are billions of stars in countless galaxies, of which more are being discovered all the time. The closest start is 4.5 light years away and the furtherest stars and galaxies are countless billions of light years away. Some these stars are very small (such as the white dwarf which is roughly the size of the earth), while others are massively larger than the sun.

      If these big stars were closer to earth, they would drag probably our whole solar system into their orbit, and the heat would destroy life on earth. Our very survival depends on these stars keeping their distance.

      Let us examine, then, what the Qur’an tells us about the stars and where they are in distance from the earth. We are told that above the earth there are seven heavens/firmaments, each above the other (Qur’an 2:29; 37:6-7; 67:3; 71:15). But we are then told that the sun and the stars are inside the lowest heaven (37:6-7; 67:5; 78:12-13)!

      The Qur’an is telling us that the stars are very small, and they are inside the sky, or at least the equivalent distance that the sun is from the earth. The lowest heaven means the closest part to the earth.

      Nevertheless, the Qur’an’s reference to seven heavens has been hailed by numerous Muslims as a great scientific insight. Harun Yahya, a popular Muslim apologist well known for his creationist, anti-evolution booklets and assertions that the Qur’an has scientific miracles, looks at this. In his Miracles of the Qur’an, he claims that the Qur’an is giving us insightful scientific instruction on what scientists only discovered in the 20th century: that the earth’s atmosphere has seven layers (i.e., the stratosphere, ionosphere, exosphere, etc). However, Yahya completely ignores that the Qur’an also says, to be consistent with such a claim, that stars we see are to be found in the lowest levels of our atmosphere!

      But we find even more errors regarding stars that ought to be of interest to astronomers. We read that this god has, “, set out constellations in the heavens, And moreover we have guarded them from every accursed Satan. But any that gains a hearing by stealth, is pursued by a fiery comet, ” (Qur’an 15:16-19; see also 37:6-7; 67:5). The Qur’an is telling us that stars and comets chase after evil spirits. It seems strange in any case, that these evil spirits (that Islam teaches are there to cause man mischief) are also millions of light years away, letting themselves be chased by enormous stars and comets, when they could be perfectly safe on earth.

      The Qur’an tells us about the prophet Abraham. Like Jews and Christians, they believe he was an historical character. Muslims assert that the Qur’an is the most accurate historical record of all prophets. After telling us that Abraham survived the flood that was in Noah’s time (Qur’an 37:79-83), we read that, “Then did he cast a glance at the Stars, and he said, “I am indeed sick at heart.” So they turned away from him and departed” (37:88-90). Because Abraham felt sick, the stars all fled from his presence.

      Is the moon made of green cheese?

      The Qur’an says that moon was cut in half (54:1). The Hadith confirms this fairytale, by repeatedly telling us that Muhammad cut the moon in half (Bukhari 4:830-832; 5:208-211; 6:387-390). How Muhammad actually did this, we are not told. Why no one else in the world saw it we are not told. How he managed to cut through hundreds of miles of solid rock we are not told. How it put it together again, we are not told. Personally, I find it easier to believe that a cow jumped over the moon.

      Are their Scientific insights in the Qur’an?

      Harun Yahya confidently shows numerous alleged scientific insights, which annulled by the fact that other parts of the Qur’an contradict him, or he is going beyond what the Qur’anic text is actually saying. He quotes the Qur’an 27:88, which says that just as clouds pass away, so will mountains. Yahya then asserts that the Qur’an is teaching continental drift and mountains being pushed upwards – but this is not what the text is saying.

      He quotes the Qur’an 75:4, where this god says in regard to the resurrection, “Nay, We are able to put together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers.” He then thinks that the Qur’an is giving insight into what was discovered centuries later – that we all have unique fingerprints, with no two alike. But is this really what the text is actually saying?

      Can you stomach this?

      In a debate against Christianity, Islamic apologist, Ahmed Deedat asserted that Muslims were the most hygienic people on earth. Perhaps they are today, but their founder was not, and should be considered neither a role model nor an example of being hygienic.

      Muhammad said that camel’s urine should be drank as medicine for those who are feeling sick (Bukhari 1:234). He sometimes spat on his clothes (1:242). He let people catch his own spit and then rub it on their faces and skin (3:891). To someone else, he ejected a mouthful of water on them (1:188). After washing himself, Muhammad would give his dirty water to his followers to drink and smear themselves with (1:187-188).


      The Qur’an gives a challenge to those who would refute it: “Do they not ponder on the Qur’an? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy” (4:82).

      As regarding science, as well as history, we find therein much discrepancy. Both contradictions within the Qur’an, as well as scientific errors bring into question that really wrote it. What could not necessarily be refuted in Muhammad’s time has been refuted in our age of science and advanced knowledge.

  69. no use by numbers how much you produce as long long as you are not productive!!!!!!!!, imagine whole world is 100% islam, whats next?? lol

  70. Assalamu Alaikum. Khairiyath se hai? Aaj kal Duniyan me har tarah ki mehnat horahi hai. Lekin asal mehnat to Deen ki hota chahiye. Isiliye Allah walon ne ek asaan raasta banaya hai ke O Dawat O Tabligh ka ye sirf aur sirf ek raasta hai. Insanon ko sahi amalpar khada karsakta hai. Allah se Dua farmaye ki Tamam Ummate Muhammadiaya ko Sirate Mustaqeem par chalaye. Ameen. Today what is the population of Muslims in Karnataka and in India. Reply. Remember me and all peoples in your Precious Duas. Abdur Rasheed. Allah hafis.

  71. The article gives us very good information on muslim population.

  72. Most of the people who have commented wants to do something good only for there community. Nobody is thinking to do good to our nation. If u people want to do good to ur community do advise community people’s to have only two children’s so that it will help to get good wealth which will help ur feature generation and also our nation..

  73. i saw only table , this article can be renewed, this needs to be updated as 2011 census need to be included

  74. Assalamalaikum WR WB….

    Good information,
    I appreciate Mr. Qazi Arshad Ali Sahab for this job…

  75. askm
    muslim population will increase upto 50 % till 2025.
    and we wil not called as minorities.
    dua for all ummah.

  76. It’s very informative, Let all of us communicate this information to young muslim generation. then only we can create awareness in muslim community & educate them about their rights, about their strength. inshallah we will grow more than 50%.. “Ye mulk hamara tha hamara hai hamara rahegaaaa” :) inshallah..

  77. One day we ll rule whole world either by sword or peace .

  78. Masha Allah great info, Jazak Allahu khair

  79. All Muslim people I request that any body plz build or make union Muslim to full fill Muslim peoples demands we also going to join u its a humble request plz O

  80. thanks Mr Kazi, it is great and lot more information we got i would like appreciate ur work,,,

    Alloh bless u and give lot more strength..

  81. Brother Qazi Arshad Ali,

    Today I read your article. You have done lot of effort for gathering information for Muslim population in Karnataka state. Compare to population our representation still we behind in loksabha and assembly election. Our students not reaching to IAS and IPS position. I request to all brothers please concentrate on key administration position.


    Majed Khan – jubail KSA

  82. Irrelevant…. Moderator should check this kind of nonsense Messages .

  83. Dear brother Ateeq, salam alaikum.

    it could be better to control yourself & be moderate for while.
    Good luck
    NHK Ahamed.

  84. Nagamangala u married this muslim

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